December 23, 2003

Y Chromosomes of Armenians

Hum Genet. 2001 Dec;109(6):659-74. Epub 2001 Oct 30.

Armenian Y chromosome haplotypes reveal strong regional structure within a single ethno-national group

Michael E. Weale et al.

Abstract. Armenia has been little-studied genetically, even though it is situated in an important area with respect to theories of ancient Middle Eastern population expansion and the spread of Indo-European languages. We screened 734 Armenian males for 11 biallelic and 6 microsatellite Y chromosome markers, segregated them according to paternal grandparental region of birth within or close to Armenia, and compared them with data from other population samples. We found significant regional stratification, on a level greater than that found in some comparisons between different ethno-national identities. A diasporan Armenian sub-sample (collected in London) was not sufficient to describe this stratified haplotype distribution adequately, warning against the use of such samples as surrogates for the non-diasporan population in future studies. The haplotype distribution and pattern of genetic distances suggest a high degree of genetic isolation in the mountainous southern and eastern regions, while in the northern, central and western regions there has been greater admixture with populations from neighbouring Middle Eastern countries. Georgia, to the north of Armenia, also appears genetically more distinct, suggesting that in the past Trans-Caucasia may have acted as a genetic barrier. A Bayesian full-likelihood analysis of the Armenian sample yields a mean estimate for the start of population growth of 4.8 thousand years ago (95% credible interval: 2.0-11.1), consistent with the onset of Neolithic farming. The more isolated southern and eastern regions have high frequencies of a microsatellite defined cluster within haplogroup 1 that is centred on a modal haplotype one step removed from the Atlantic Modal Haplotype, the centre of a cluster found at high frequencies in England, Friesland and Atlantic populations, and which may represent a remnant paternal signal of a Paleolithic migration event.

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Posted by Dienekes at December 23, 2003 04:35 PM | PermaLink
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Armenians from Van are supposed to be lighter-pigmented than other Armenians. I wonder how they compare genetically...

Posted by: Melnorme at December 24, 2003 05:54 AM

"the centre of a cluster found at high frequencies in England, Friesland and Atlantic populations, and which may represent a remnant paternal signal of a Paleolithic migration event."

Is the time of the influence (Palaeolithic) sure?

If not this could be the proof for a later Northern, probably Indoeuropean (?) influence.

Posted by: Chris at December 24, 2003 12:39 PM

>> If not this could be the proof for a later Northern, probably Indoeuropean (?) influence.

That is impossible, since the English etc. are not genetically related to Proto-Indo-Europeans; they are rather pre-Indo-European aboriginals.

Posted by: Dienekes at December 24, 2003 08:22 PM

Thats sure for some parts of them, but the Anglo-Saxons, Juts and Norman as Celtic invaders not at all.

Its unlikely if you follow some theories, but if you say the corded are the Indoeuropeans, than corded are in all regions mentioned.

The question is just if this markers can be from the time in question.

Posted by: Chris at December 25, 2003 11:07 AM

"Corded" people are unrelated to the Upper Paleolithic inhabitants of the Atlantic coast.

Posted by: Dienekes at December 25, 2003 09:53 PM

Sure, but I thought its just about this regions in general and not the special racial type...
The region in general is at least partly related to the corded.

Of course I always thought that there are 2 regions in Europe, the west (Basques, British Isles) and the east (Caucasus) which preserved more pre-indoeuropean and probably even pre-neolithic reservats.

I didnt say that the first hypothesis isnt true, I just want to keep other possibilities in mind.
And I didnt read out of the text that just UP Brits are meant...(in a racial sense)

Posted by: Chris at December 26, 2003 08:26 AM

Actually, the haplotype probably came from Anatolia since R1b3 (which is a part of Haplogroup 1) survived in both Anatolia and Iberia during the end of the Ice Age. Check out the link:

http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/HG_2004_v114_p127-148.pdf

Posted by: Diarmid Logan at December 26, 2003 09:36 AM
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