There are ofcourse some beautifull Welsh women but there are also some really ugly Welsh women. In Wales (just like in Ireland and Scotland) there are a lot of redheads. About 15-20 % of the Welsh have that red/ginger/reddishblond hair and those are features I dont find attractive.

When it comes to beauty in Europe the French women are number 1 in my opinion.

Just because someone has red hair does not mean that they are ugly. Just as there is no shortage of ugly people with dark hair.

I believe that Catherine Z-J had at least a nose job since she first became famous. But, even so,, she is still the real deal when it comes to beauty, unlike stars with lots of personality but awkward features like Julia Roberts.

For European beauty, I'd vote for Northern Italian women.

CZJ has an irish mother i believe....

I don't know CJZ's genealogy, but from the fact that she has a grandmother called Zeta I would guess there is some Mediterranean ancestry.

Or maybe a touch of the Tiger Bay tarbrush? (I mean this in a wholly inoffensive way!)

But Zeta-Jones has never become a terribly popular figure, despite the beauty. Interesting, no? My hunch is that it's partly because of her beauty, which is pretty anonymous -- if anything, her features are too regular. What tends to hook people in a movie star is some combo of beauty in a conventional sense and irregularity. Incidentally, this is the theory of beauty that comes from classical art -- much in the way of symmetry and regularity, but iterrupted by memorable irregularities and "imperfections." Zeta-Jones always looks to me (even in "Zorro" or "Chicago") like a replacement for a real star.

Of course, then there are those pretty beauties like Sharon Stone -- airline-stewardess pretty -- who triumph, at least for a few years, over the banality of their beauty.

But it's one of the complaints of many filmgoing buddies of mine these days. Movie women these days often aren't terribly memorable. They're incredible and sparkly -- more fit and better madeup than ever before. But, what with surgery, cosmetics, stylists, orthodenture, trainers, etc, too many of them come out of the same mold. They're perfect but they're boring. One of the glories of movies and the stage has always been the combo of beauty and "personality." Not enough of that around these days.

I loved surfing a site the other day devoted to women stars of the '60s and'70s, and part of what was so remarkable about the faces and bods on display were what we'd consider imperfections -- slightly tangled teeth, or flabby thighs. Yet (and I hope I'm not just losing myself in nostalgia) most of the the women were distinctive.

>> But Zeta-Jones has never become a terribly popular figure, despite the beauty.

I agree with your theory above, but in CZJ's case, I think it's the fact that she's had all these kids and settled down into married life.

David B

I don't know CJZ's genealogy, but from the fact that she has a grandmother called Zeta I would guess there is some Mediterranean ancestry.

According to this site, this is how her grandmother got her name:

Zeta

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"Famously, Catherine's middle name "Zeta", was her grandmother's name, derived from a boat her great-grandfather sailed. "The Zeta" was the pride of Swansea's copper exporting fleet in the 19th Century."

Your right Juice, red hair is ugly. I am irish french and mongolian and unfortunatly I was delt by genetics copper hair. You can imangine how ugly I was, having slanted eyes and red hair. I chose to dye my hair black so I'd look natural.

To identify black-hair as a typical 'Celtic' feature is something of an over-simplification, if not totally absurd... Beginning from antiquity, "Celtic" relates much more to "Germanic" in terms of bodily features (hair color, eye color, stature etc) that e.g. to somewhat 'darker' racial types like the Mediterranean. But then again I suppose many confuse Silurian with Celtic... ;)

"Of course, then there are those pretty beauties like Sharon Stone"

Speaking of Sharon Stone, there's going to a be a Basic Instict 2! I love Sharon Stone.

ok yall can just shut all ur mouths, u have no right to talk lyke that about catherine. shes the most georgous and real celebrity out there, no one could ever replace her. and srry David B, but Catherine haz deserved all of her roles and managed them PERFECTLY. dont even start with me, if any one haz a problem e-mail me and say it to my face. Catherines mom is Irish and her dad is Welsh. sumone please tell me that im stupid but HELLO! you guyz all said that welsh woman have beautiful features. irish have perfect symetry in the face. shes welsh/irish....get it! shes georgous!!! she waz voted most beautiful woman in the world i dont know how many times by how many people. how much do u want to bet all of you are butt ugly behind your screens....

i rest my case....got anything to say now?